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18 May 2026

Fatty Liver Expert: Your Liver Is Filling With Fat Right Now - Dr David Unwin

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The myth-busts, hot takes, explainers, and tools worth keeping.

Hot Take· 1

Hot Take13:00

Why Unwin Says Earlier Metabolic Intervention Has Better Odds

Drawing on follow-up data from his own practice, Unwin reports higher rates of normal blood sugar among low-carbohydrate patients treated at prediabetes or early type 2 diabetes stages than among those treated later. These percentages are his practice results as stated in the interview, not independently validated trial findings in the transcript.

  • Unwin reports 93% blood-sugar normalization among participating prediabetes patients
  • He reports about 73% when type 2 diabetes is addressed early
  • He says the chance falls to about 50% after five years
  • His conclusion is that delay reduces the chance of control without medication
  • The transcript does not provide study design details needed to generalize the figures

93% of them will get a completely normal blood sugar if they go low carb.

Dr. David Unwin · 13:30

the chances of me not needing drugs and be able to do a good job for you are diminishing.

Dr. David Unwin · 14:00
#prediabetes#early intervention#low carb#practice data

Explainer· 3

Explainer07:00

How Unwin Connects Excess Glucose, Fatty Liver, and Diabetes

Unwin describes insulin moving glucose out of the bloodstream and says surplus glucose can be converted to fat. In his account, fat accumulating in the liver contributes to insulin resistance, the pancreas compensates by producing more insulin, and later pancreatic fat can impair insulin production; this is his explanation of a pathway toward type 2 diabetes.

  • Insulin helps move glucose from blood into cells
  • Unwin says excess glucose can be converted to fat
  • He links fatty liver with reduced insulin effectiveness
  • He describes pancreatic compensation followed by declining insulin production
  • The transcript presents this as a long, initially silent process

Insulin, the hormone insulin produced by your pancreas gland, it pushes the sugar

Dr. David Unwin · 08:00

fatty liver interferes with the good work of insulin.

Dr. David Unwin · 11:00
#fatty liver#insulin resistance#type 2 diabetes#metabolism
Explainer45:00

Why Unwin Says Carb-Heavy Eating Can Keep Hunger Cycling

Unwin says a rapid glucose rise can prompt an insulin response followed by falling blood glucose and renewed hunger, using orange juice and his biscuit habit as examples. He and the host also describe feeling less hungry while fasting or eating very low carbohydrate, but these are their experiences and broad claims rather than a guarantee for every listener.

  • Juicing removes the intact fruit structure and can speed the sugar hit, according to Unwin
  • He links a rapid rise and fall in glucose with renewed hunger
  • A sugary breakfast without much protein is presented as one trigger for mid-morning hunger
  • Both speakers report reduced hunger during fasting or ketogenic eating
  • Individual appetite responses can differ

your blood sugar goes up rapidly. So, your body responds rapidly with insulin.

Dr. David Unwin · 46:00

starting the day with a sugary breakfast without enough protein in it is driving hunger.

Dr. David Unwin · 46:30
#hunger#blood glucose#fasting#low carb
Explainer1:22:30

When Repeated Eating Looks More Like Addiction Than Ignorance

Unwin argues that some people repeatedly consume ultra-processed foods despite understanding serious harm, and he presents severe patient stories to distinguish this from simple lack of information. He says shame, concealment, and failed moderation can be part of the pattern, while noting his wife’s published estimate that about 14% of people show some aspects of ultra-processed-food addiction.

  • Knowing a food is harmful may not be enough to stop compulsive use
  • Unwin describes secrecy and repeated eating despite severe consequences
  • He says some patients can abstain but cannot moderate
  • He attributes the roughly 14% estimate to Jen Unwin’s work
  • The stories argue for support and treatment rather than character judgments

When you have intelligent people highly highly intelligent people doing stuff that harms their health repeatedly, is this not like cigarettes?

Dr. David Unwin · 1:23:30

he couldn't moderate but he could abstain.

Dr. David Unwin · 1:27:30
#food addiction#ultra-processed food#cravings#shame

Story· 2

Story17:00

The Patient Who Forced Unwin to Reconsider 25 Years of Advice

A patient stopped taking metformin, changed her diet after learning online, and challenged Unwin for never explaining the glucose effect of bread, rice, and cereal. Unwin says testing confirmed normal blood glucose without the medication, prompting him to listen, investigate low-carbohydrate eating, and reconsider his prior approach.

  • The patient confronted both the advice and medication-centred incentives
  • Unwin says he listened rather than defending himself
  • A blood test confirmed the patient’s reported improvement in his account
  • He describes this as the first drug-free type 2 diabetes case he had seen
  • The encounter led him to examine evidence outside his previous practice

If they're complaining, don't deny it. Don't defend yourself. Take it.

Dr. David Unwin · 20:30

It was the first case of drug-free type 2 diabetes I'd ever seen.

Dr. David Unwin · 21:00
#patient story#medical humility#type 2 diabetes#low carb
Story23:00

Why Unwin Monitored His First Low-Carb Group So Closely

After colleagues declined to fund the idea, Unwin and Jen Unwin ran an evening group in their own time with 18 patient volunteers while following the diet themselves. Because the approach was controversial in their setting, he says they repeatedly measured liver function, weight, blood pressure, lipids, and HbA1c and observed improvements across the group.

  • The initial group involved 18 volunteers plus David and Jen Unwin
  • A nurse also volunteered to help
  • Unwin says close monitoring was necessary because patients could be harmed
  • He reports early improvements in liver tests, weight, blood pressure, and HbA1c
  • These are Unwin’s observations from the pilot as recounted in the episode

if you're going to do a weird thing, you need to measure stuff.

Dr. David Unwin · 25:30

I was monitoring stuff really closely.

Dr. David Unwin · 25:30
#clinical pilot#measurement#low carb#patient safety

Q&A· 2

Q&A1:39:30

What the Episode Claims About Sugar, Diet, and Cancer Risk

The host reads several claimed associations between sugary drinks, metabolic markers, and cancer outcomes, and Unwin uses them to argue for greater attention to prevention. The transcript does not identify the studies sufficiently to verify their design, causality, or quoted effect sizes, so the figures should be treated as host-reported claims rather than established by the episode itself.

  • The host reports associations involving sugary drinks and several cancer outcomes
  • He also describes proposed mechanisms involving insulin, inflammation, and lipids
  • Unwin responds by emphasizing prevention alongside treatment
  • Both acknowledge that not all cancer is caused by diet
  • Association, mechanism, and individual causation are not interchangeable

I'm not saying all cancer is linked to what we eat because that's not the case

Steven Bartlett · 1:43:30

We talk so much around the world about treating cancer. But what about prevention?

Dr. David Unwin · 1:42:00
#cancer#sugary drinks#prevention#evidence
Q&A1:50:00

Unwin’s Magnesium Advice—and His Warning About Oversupplementing

Unwin says he often considers magnesium supplementation and distinguishes citrate, which he describes as more laxative, from glycinate or threonate for people focused on sleep or mood. He also warns that supplements can be overused and that medication can affect magnesium; these are his clinical opinions in the interview and listeners should verify suitability, dose, interactions, and evidence with a qualified professional.

  • Unwin prefers obtaining nutrients through diet where possible
  • He describes magnesium citrate as more useful when constipation is present
  • He discusses glycinate or threonate when constipation is not the goal
  • He says medication and age can affect magnesium status or absorption
  • He warns that taking many supplements can lead to oversupplementation

My My gut reaction is to try and use diet to give you what you need. If you can.

Dr. David Unwin · 1:50:30

It's possible to over supplement quite easily.

Dr. David Unwin · 1:56:30
#magnesium#supplements#medication#safety

Tool· 3

Tool53:00

Unwin’s Protein-First Pattern for Building a Lower-Carb Meal

For someone with insulin resistance or type 2 diabetes, Unwin suggests starting a meal with a protein the person will eat, adding tolerated green vegetables, and using fats such as olive oil, butter, or full-fat mayonnaise for flavour. He also advises caution with packaged sauces and says carbohydrate content matters alongside the added-sugar line; this is his clinical approach, not individualized advice for every listener.

  • Choose a practical protein such as chicken or eggs
  • Add green vegetables the person can buy and tolerate
  • Use an appropriate fat to make vegetables appealing
  • Check total carbohydrate rather than only added sugar
  • Prefer minimally packaged food when practical

why don't you base your meal on protein?

Dr. David Unwin · 53:00

you have to look at the carbohydrate content

Dr. David Unwin · 54:30
#meal planning#protein#real food#carbohydrates
Tool1:48:00

The String Test for a Waist Below Half Your Height

Unwin demonstrates a low-cost screening check: take a string as long as your height, halve it, and see whether that half fits around the widest part of your waist. He presents a waist below half of height as a recognized indicator associated with metabolic health, while acknowledging that body composition and other assessments also matter.

  • Use a string equal to your full height
  • Fold or cut it exactly in half
  • Wrap the half around the widest part of the waist
  • Passing means the waist is less than half the height
  • The check is a screening indicator, not a diagnosis

your waist should be less than half your height.

Dr. David Unwin · 1:48:30

Piece of string as long as you are tall. Cut it in half.

Dr. David Unwin · 1:49:30
#waist-to-height ratio#screening#metabolic health#body fat
Tool2:07:00

What a Continuous Glucose Monitor Can—and Cannot—Show

Unwin uses a continuous glucose monitor to see his glucose pattern and suggests it can help people test how particular foods affect them. He presents immediate feedback as a way to individualize learning, but the episode does not discuss sensor error, interpretation limits, medication changes, or whether routine use benefits people without diabetes.

  • A CGM displays glucose trends on a connected device
  • Unwin uses it to compare his response to particular foods
  • The host says seeing unexpected food responses changed his understanding
  • Stress can also affect glucose, according to Unwin
  • A glucose trace is feedback, not a complete nutritional or medical assessment

if you're going to experiment, notice, measure something.

Dr. David Unwin · 2:07:00

once you've seen it on your phone You can't unsee it.

Dr. David Unwin · 2:08:30
#cgm#blood glucose#feedback#self-tracking

Takeaway· 1

Takeaway1:59:00

A Health Screen Should Clarify Action, Not Just Create Fear

Responding to the host’s description of private health screening, Unwin says testing should connect findings to actions a person can take. He cautions that unexplained results can frighten patients and increase demand for follow-up without necessarily improving care.

  • A screening result needs an understandable next step
  • Accurate risk information can still be harmful if it only creates fear
  • Professional interpretation helps separate actionable findings from noise
  • Testing should support decisions rather than curiosity alone

you don't just scare people.

Dr. David Unwin · 1:59:00

screening that relates to actionable points

Dr. David Unwin · 1:59:30
#health screening#actionability#risk communication#patient care