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Jay Shetty30 January 2023

Jay Shetty: 8 Rules For Perfect Love & Amazing Sex!

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The myth-busts, hot takes, explainers, and tools worth keeping.

Myth Buster· 3

Myth Buster34:30

The monk teaching on money that Shetty says everyone misreads

Shetty argues the monk philosophy on money is routinely flattened into 'monks don't have money, therefore money is bad', which he calls a simplistic version of a far deeper idea. The actual teaching is that everything in the world is simply energy, and any of it can be used for something higher or abused. He illustrates it with a monastery parable: a teacher asks a student whether to give one person a hundred pounds or a hundred people one pound each. Both answers are defensible — the second teaches you to become better at giving and gives a hundred people an opportunity to grow — and the point is that the question of whether money is good or bad is the wrong question. He connects it to his own experience: the covid fundraiser for India he and his wife ran cost money to organise and would have been impossible without the resource, audience and community they had.

  • The monk philosophy treats everything in the world as energy that can be used higher or abused
  • 'Monks don't have money therefore money is bad' is a simplistic reading of a far deeper idea
  • The hundred-pounds parable: one person or a hundred people, both answers are legitimate
  • Calling something inherently bad or evil is shallower than recognising anything can be used for good or worse
  • His covid fundraiser for India required resource, audience and community to be possible at all

the perception is monks don't have money therefore it's bad but that's a simplistic version of a far deeper idea

Jay Shetty · 35:00

you can't pour out for others that which you don't have in your own bottle

Steven Bartlett · 37:30
#money#philosophy#monk-teachings#giving#vedas
Myth Buster1:22:30

Graduates predicted an 8 if married and a 3 if single — the real number was 7

Shetty cites a study of college graduates asked to predict their happiness if they married within five years versus if they stayed single. The majority predicted an eight if married and a three if single. In reality, those who stayed single reported around a seven. Shetty calls the gap between perception and outcome mind-blowing, and reads it as evidence that people's fear of loneliness is drastically inflated relative to the lived experience. He uses it to explain why so many people skip the purpose stage entirely: connection looks like the easier solve for internal unhealing, so people conclude that being with someone will fix how they feel about themselves faster than doing that work alone would.

  • Graduates predicted married happiness at 8 and single happiness at 3
  • Those who stayed single actually reported around 7
  • The perception of loneliness is far worse than its reality
  • This mis-prediction is why people skip purpose and lead with connection
  • The right person reduces drama; the wrong person, met from an unhealed place, increases trauma

the majority of people predicted that if they got married their happiness would be at eight but if they remain single their happiness would be…

Jay Shetty · 1:22:30

a lot of us skip purpose because we find connection is an easier solve to our internal unhealing

Jay Shetty · 1:23:00
#research#singleness#happiness#loneliness#dating
Myth Buster1:47:00

Great sex is a by-product of connection, never a replacement for it

Shetty argues social media has created an impression that everyone else is having sex, while the trends he has looked at show sexless relationships and marriages rising every year and most people getting far less than the ambient assumption suggests. His explanation routes back through everything else in the conversation: sexual chemistry depends on how someone feels about themselves, and someone who is not taking care of themselves or growing is unlikely to want to share their body, mind and emotions in the most physically intimate way available. He notes the studies showing the chemicals released during sex make you feel closer even when you are not emotionally closer, which is how sex becomes a crutch — an argument settled, a problem apparently solved. His conclusion is that sex is a by-product of two growing individuals having the fights and conversations they need to have, and if you cannot have a vulnerable conversation you cannot expose yourself in the most vulnerable physical way either.

  • Sexless relationships and marriages are rising year on year while social media suggests the opposite
  • Sexual chemistry depends first on how a person feels about themselves
  • The chemicals released during sex simulate closeness that is not emotionally real — which is why it works as a crutch
  • Sex becomes a transaction, then an obligation, once intimacy has gone
  • Shetty's Buddha quote framing: when you like a flower you pluck it, when you love a flower you water it every day
  • Sleeping in the same bed or living in the same house does not make you close to someone

great sex is a byproduct of great connection and intimacy it's not a replacement for or a source of

Jay Shetty · 1:47:00

when you like a flower you simply pluck it but when you love a flower you water it every day

Jay Shetty · 1:49:30
#sex#intimacy#vulnerability#relationships#connection

Hot Take· 2

Hot Take11:30

Why Shetty walked away from being Facebook's number one creator

Shetty was the number one page and creator on Facebook, making sketch-style motivational videos with cast actors, an idea he had adapted from watching sketch comedians. After a couple of years of extraordinary growth the format stopped fuelling him, and he left it — meaning he stopped making the content the platform was rewarding. His diagnosis is that anything new is attractive, and as it ages you keep doing it only because part of it has become performative. Raw passion becomes performance, and performance is what drains you, because it is an acted version rather than a natural injection of soul. He also concluded a four-minute video can spark motivation but cannot build a habit, so he moved to podcasts, books and programmes, which can.

  • He was number one on Facebook and quit the format that got him there, not the platform's reach
  • The format was owning him — he was obliged to be a specific creator giving specific four-minute pieces of advice
  • What starts as raw passion decays into performance, and performance is the thing that drains you
  • A four-minute video is the spark; a book, podcast or programme is what rewires habits
  • Bartlett quit Facebook for the mirror reason — the videos may have done something for others, but they were doing nothing for him

so what was raw passion becomes performance and I think performance is what drains us

Jay Shetty · 11:30

a four minute video can give you motivation and inspiration but a four minute video can't help you build a habit

Jay Shetty · 12:30
#creator-economy#burnout#quitting#content-strategy#purpose
Hot Take1:04:30

If you are trying to change your partner, you love their potential, not them

Asked what Rebecca should do about Dave, Shetty's opening instruction is to stop trying to change anyone at all. People do not change for other people, they change for themselves, and if they do not want to change they will not. He goes further: whoever you date, you will always want to change them, because deep inside you believe the values you were raised with are what everyone should hold. The sharpest formulation is that loving someone's potential is not loving them — it is loving a version you have invented. He argues relationships are about learning to respect other people's values rather than converting them, and that forcing a partner into your interests is not compromise or connection but is quietly ruining relationships. Bartlett adds the decoding problem: 'please read this book' about being great in bed reads to the recipient as 'you are bad in bed'.

  • People do not change for people, they change for themselves — and if they do not want to, they will not
  • You will want to change anyone you date, because you assume your upbringing's values are universal
  • Loving someone's potential means loving a version of them that is not them
  • Forcing a partner into your interests is not compromise or connection
  • Pushing personal development on a partner poisons the whole category for them — Shetty's analogy is people becoming atheists because a religion failed them
  • A recommendation is heard as an accusation about a flaw

if you're trying to change them then you don't love them you love their potential you love a version of them that you think they…

Jay Shetty · 1:04:30

stop trying to change anyone because people don't change for people they change for themselves

Jay Shetty · 1:03:00
#relationships#change#values#projection#communication

Explainer· 2

Explainer43:00

Plant a seed, pluck the weeds: the daily practice Shetty learned in the monastery

In the monastery every student had to plant a seed and tend it daily, because weeds grow around it constantly and — critically — the weeds often look like the plant, even look perfect. You can keep watering the weeds or water the seed and pluck the weeds, and that choice is the daily practice. Shetty runs it in meditation each morning, noting that some weeds are no longer seedlings and need ripping and uprooting rather than plucking. It sits alongside the monastery idea of relishing the battle: the battle is never won or lost, you re-pick up the sword every day. His teachers' formulation of the trap is that if you feel unaffected by Maya — illusion, the dark side — you are in it, the same way anyone claiming to be humble is in ego at that moment. Shetty names his own weeds as envy, jealousy, comparison and ego, and says the biggest one is believing his way of living is the right way.

  • Every monastery student planted a seed and tended it daily against weeds that grow back constantly
  • The weeds often look like the plant, and can look perfect — that is what makes the practice necessary
  • Some long-standing weeds need ripping and uprooting, not gentle plucking
  • If you feel unaffected by illusion, you are in it — the same logic as claiming humility while in ego
  • His biggest personal weed: believing his priorities and values should be everyone's, most visible with his wife
  • The moment you think you have won the battle is the moment you lose it

when you plant a seed weeds are going to grow around it and the weeds often look like the plant they often look perfect and…

Jay Shetty · 43:30

if you feel that you're unaffected by Maya you're in Maya

Jay Shetty · 40:00
#daily-practice#self-awareness#ego#meditation#monk-teachings
Explainer1:51:00

Porn's diminishing returns, and celibacy as redirected creative energy

Shetty says masturbation to porn hurts relationships long term because it functions as avoidance and escape rather than self-connection, and rewires the brain for false expectations. The studies he looked at showed escalation: the most searched and most watched material trended more extreme — rough, hardcore, sometimes violent or abusive — because of the diminishing returns of the chemicals involved, which retrains the brain to feel less pleasure from conventional sex. He then reframes celibacy, which he practised for three years as a monk with no internet or phone access. The Sanskrit term for a monk in his tradition, brahmacharya, technically means proper use of that energy — so celibacy is not repression or suppression but redirection of vital energy. He proposes a non-monastic version: couples committing to a set number of months dating without sex, so decisions about real intimacy and connection are not distorted by chemistry.

  • Porn use functions as escape and avoidance, not self-connection
  • Search data trended toward more extreme material because of diminishing chemical returns
  • Escalation retrains the brain to feel less pleasure from conventional sex, and wrecks expectations of intimacy
  • Brahmacharya technically means proper use of energy — celibacy as redirection, not repression
  • Shetty's practical proposal: date without sex for a committed number of months to make cleaner decisions
  • A friend who tried it found he could tell whether real intimacy and connection existed
  • Shetty's own three monk years gave him what he calls three years of creative energy for self-work

to watch more extreme porn to get the same feeling so the most searched porn and the most watched porn was abusive

Jay Shetty · 1:51:30

celibacy is not a repression or a suppression or a closing off it's re-utilizing that vital energy in a different direction

Jay Shetty · 1:58:00
#porn#celibacy#brahmacharya#dating#decision-making

Story· 3

Story23:00

The seven days Shetty spent alone with the criticism, told publicly for the first time

Shetty describes a period he says he had never shared publicly: waking up every morning feeling physically sick, and spending seven days entirely alone while his wife was in London. The criticism was the apparent contradiction between having written 'Think Like a Monk' and visibly earning from books, ad revenue and business. Day one he read everything — comments, tweets, articles — deliberately, to be informed, and felt defensive and desperate to explain himself. Days three and four were the hardest, because he began to believe parts of the criticism and took someone else's words as his worth. Days five and six were about making sense of the attacks and of what he believed about himself, underpinned by trying to find compassion for why people feel the need to do it at all.

  • Seven unplanned days alone, waking each morning feeling physically sick and wanting to throw up
  • Day one: reading every comment, tweet and article, immersed and defensive
  • Days three and four were hardest — he started to believe the criticism and take another person's words as his worth
  • The recurring interview angle: he tells you to think like a monk but sells millions of books
  • His resolution route was compassion — asking what role this behaviour plays in people's lives — and looking at his own envy and inadequacy
  • The feedback he ultimately accepted: he may need to explain his intentions and give more context, not just do the work

I was just waking up feeling sick and for a week I just had to be alone

Jay Shetty · 23:30

you're now taking someone else's words to be your worth and you're taking someone's writing to be who you are

Jay Shetty · 29:00
#criticism#public-scrutiny#anxiety#self-reflection#reputation
Story1:24:30

The couple asked to rank their top three priorities, including themselves

Shetty asks couples he coaches to rank their top three priorities in order, with themselves included as an option. One couple's answers were revealing: the man said 'you, the kids, me'; the woman said 'me, the kids, you'. He was heartbroken — not that he was third, which he said he would take all day, but that she had put herself above the children. Her answer was the one Shetty and Bartlett both endorse: if she does not fill her own cup and is not her best self, all she has left to give anyone is leftovers. The kids are not second because she does not care about them, and if they needed her they would be first. Shetty uses it to attack the idea that self-sacrifice makes you a better partner — he has watched people give up their dreams for decades only to look back in their fifties and sixties, once the kids had left, and wish they had not.

  • The exercise: rank your top three priorities in order, including yourself
  • He said 'you, the kids, me'; she said 'me, the kids, you'
  • His objection was not being third — it was her placing herself above the children
  • Her defence: without filling her own cup, everyone gets leftovers
  • Shetty's reading is that self-sacrifice produces resentment, guilt and upset, not a better partner
  • Bartlett's most-shared tweet ever — 150,000 likes, 75,000 retweets — makes the same point: be your own first priority

the man said you the kids me and the woman said me the kids you

Jay Shetty · 1:24:30

if I don't fill my own bottle if I don't film my own cup if I'm not my best self what am I giving to…

Jay Shetty · 1:25:00
#priorities#self-care#coaching#parenting#resentment
Story1:39:30

The stone worth two dollars, two hundred, or two thousand

Shetty tells a fable about a boy who finds a stone at home and asks his father what it is worth. The father sends him to a baker with instructions to hold up two fingers when asked the price — the baker offers two dollars. Sent to an antique shop with the same instruction, the dealer offers two hundred. Sent to a rare-gem jeweller, the answer is two thousand. The stone never changed; every appraisal reflected only the buyer's own knowledge and experience. Shetty's application is that we let other people define our worth based on what we chose to show them, and if you present from a place of low vibration, insecurity and anxiety, someone will price you at two dollars and you will accept it. The counter is to price yourself first — this is my worth, this is who I am — after which nobody can undervalue you.

  • Same stone, three buyers, three valuations: two dollars, two hundred, two thousand
  • Every appraisal reflects the appraiser's knowledge, not the object's value
  • Presenting from insecurity gets you priced at two dollars, and you accept it
  • Price yourself first and you will never let someone undervalue you
  • Shetty's diagnosis: everyone feels like that undervalued stone because they are not being perceived by the right people for the right things

we're letting someone else Define our worth by what we showed them

Jay Shetty · 1:41:00

because we don't value ourselves and we're letting someone else value us we are being undervalued by every person we date and meet

Jay Shetty · 1:41:30
#self-worth#fable#valuation#insecurity#dating

Takeaway· 1

Takeaway1:14:30

Paul Brunson's two-week rule, and why Shetty says write your own

Bartlett relays a rule from a previous guest, Paul Brunson, who travels internationally for television work: if an opportunity requires him and his wife to be apart for more than two weeks, they either go together or he does not go. Brunson publicly posted that he had been given an opportunity of a lifetime and had turned it down because they could not travel together. Shetty calls it a great rule and acknowledges it is genuinely difficult, but does not tell listeners to adopt it. Instead he says everyone needs to come up with their own version, which he frames as the whole point of writing a book called '8 Rules of Love' — come up with your own relationship rules. His own version is a standing commitment: every thirty days, three days together without phones, three hours' drive from home.

  • Brunson's rule: more than two weeks apart means they go together or he declines
  • He turned down what he publicly called an opportunity of a lifetime on that basis
  • Shetty endorses the rule but insists the point is to write your own, not copy his or Brunson's
  • Shetty's own rule: every 30 days, three phone-free days together, three hours from home in LA
  • He does not want to wait for the annual holiday to get quality time

if an opportunity invites us to be a part for more than two weeks we either go together or I don't go

Steven Bartlett · 1:14:30

that's my hope with the book with the rules it's like come up with your own relationship rules

Jay Shetty · 1:15:00
#relationship-rules#travel#boundaries#quality-time#commitment