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Mel Robbins04 December 2023

Mel Robbins: "Saying These 2 Words Will Fix Your Anxiety!" The New Trick For Stress, Anxiety & Breaking Every Bad Habit In 2024!

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The myth-busts, hot takes, explainers, and tools worth keeping.

Myth Buster· 3

Myth Buster47:30

'Let them' is not 'let it go' — the emotion is the evidence you care

Robbins draws a sharp line between her theory and the usual advice to just let things go. Saying 'I don't give a hoot' is baloney, she argues, because if you feel a wave of energy or emotion about something you demonstrably do care. 'Let them' works because it does three things at once: it acknowledges the situation, it acknowledges that the situation bothers you, and it permits the thing to happen rather than suppressing your reaction to it. Most people know they should let it go; nobody tells them how.

  • Everyone is told to let go; nobody is told the mechanism.
  • Emotion is evidence the thing is impacting you, so denial fails.
  • 'Let them' acknowledges both the event and your reaction to it.
  • It puts you above the situation by permitting rather than suppressing.

if you're feeling a wave of energy about it or emotion about it you do care because the emotion is evidence that it is impacting…

Mel Robbins · 47:30

most people understand that you should just let it go or you shouldn't care but they don't know how

Mel Robbins · 48:00
#let-them-theory#emotional-regulation#myths#psychology
Myth Buster09:00

'I can't trust myself' is false — scroll back through your photos

Robbins rejects the common self-assessment that someone is unlucky in love and can't trust their own instincts. Her counter-exercise: go back through five or six bad relationships using your photo roll, which drags the timeline back into view, and look at your own face. People always admit they knew — seven years before the divorce, a year before the breakup, sometimes before they ever got together. The conclusion is that the inner compass was accurate every time, and the failure was courage to follow it, not accuracy.

  • Photos are the fastest route back through your own timeline.
  • Look at your face in them and be honest about when you knew.
  • People consistently knew years in advance.
  • The gap is courage, not accuracy.

it's not that you can't trust yourself because your instincts have always been right

Mel Robbins · 09:00

the issue isn't the accuracy of your inner wisdom the issue is your courage and following it

Mel Robbins · 10:00
#intuition#relationships#self-trust#exercise
Myth Buster1:11:30

The Lost Generation: women medicated for anxiety that was actually ADHD

Robbins explains that ADHD research in the late 60s and 70s studied only boys, who show symptoms around age seven as hyperactivity. Girls don't start presenting until around twelve, and present differently — inattentive in a daydreaming way, disorganised, and aiming all of it back at themselves, right as puberty and hormonal change arrive. Undiagnosed, the number one thing that develops is anxiety. The result is what she calls the Lost Generation: women who developed serious anxiety in high school and college and were treated and medicated for the anxiety while the underlying ADHD went unaddressed. She says she was textbook.

  • Early ADHD research studied boys only, so the female presentation went unrecognised.
  • Girls present around 12, inattentive and disorganised, and internalise it.
  • Undiagnosed ADHD's number one downstream outcome is anxiety.
  • A generation of women got medicated for the symptom, never the cause.

there's an entire generation of women called The Lost Generation

Mel Robbins · 1:12:00

we get treated for the anxiety and medicated for it without addressing the underlying issue all along which was undiagnosed ADHD

Mel Robbins · 1:14:30
#adhd#anxiety#womens-health#misdiagnosis

Hot Take· 1

Hot Take1:20:00

'It'll take about 10 years and then you'll bounce back' is not acceptable

Robbins describes menopause at 55 as confounding and overwhelming: unchanged healthy habits for eight years that suddenly stop working, an expanding body, brain fog and night sweats, all a function of changing estrogen. Her frustration is structural — women weren't included in medical research until the late 80s, menopause was a single chapter in OBGYN schooling, and she was told by an expert that studies use postmenopausal women specifically so hormones don't throw off results. Given that estrogen is effectively the fuel circulating through a woman's body, she calls the standard advice to just wait a decade unacceptable for more than half the planet.

  • Eight years of unchanged healthy habits stopped working during menopause.
  • Women weren't included in medical research until the late 80s.
  • Menopause was a single chapter in OBGYN training.
  • Life expectancy now far outruns the fertility cycle, leaving 30-40 years to live well.

I have not changed my habits in I don't know eight years I have very very healthy habits because I force myself to do things…

Mel Robbins · 1:21:00

you know it'll take about 10 years and then you'll bounce back that is not acceptable

Mel Robbins · 1:27:00
#menopause#womens-health#medical-research#hormones

Story· 2

Story41:30

The hailstorm, the tuxedos and the taco stand that produced 'let them'

Robbins tells the origin story of the Let Them Theory at her son Oak's junior prom. After a last-minute scramble over the tux, the Stan Smith sneakers and the date, a hailstorm hit the pre-prom photo party and Robbins discovered the kids had no dinner reservation. As she started winding up the other parents about pizza orders, her daughter Kendall grabbed her arm and said 'let them'. When Oak announced they were going to a taco place the size of a table, in tuxedos, in the rain, Robbins felt the volcano of control rise and instead just repeated the two words until it passed.

  • Every step of the prom triggered an internal opinion she didn't voice.
  • Her daughter Kendall introduced the phrase mid-escalation.
  • Robbins repeated 'let them go to the taco stand, let him ruin his shoes' until she unhooked.
  • The immediate follow-on question was: why am I not worried about where I'm going to have dinner?

let them if they want to go to a taco stand in the pouring rain and ruin their dress let them it's their problem not…

Mel Robbins · 44:00

why am I worried about what he's doing why am I not worried about where I'm going to have dinner

Mel Robbins · 44:30
#let-them-theory#parenting#control#origin-story
Story1:08:00

Diagnosed at 47 in a pediatrician's office, reading her son's report

Robbins describes finding out her youngest son Oakley couldn't read until fourth grade because he had over-compensated by being the most verbal kid in class. Private testing returned profound dyslexia, dysgraphia, executive functioning issues and ADHD. Sitting in the pediatrician's office reading the report, she asked her doctor friend Mark whether she might have ADHD too — and he put his paper down and said of course, she was the most ADHD parent in his entire practice, citing the calls she never returned and the wellness appointments she missed for years. She got tested and came back with the same profile as her son.

  • Oakley's reading problem went undetected because he over-compensated verbally.
  • The private assessment found dyslexia, dysgraphia, executive function issues and ADHD.
  • Her pediatrician had long assumed it and never said, because he wasn't her doctor.
  • Robbins tested at 47 and matched her son's profile exactly.

do I think you have ADHD of course you have ADHD you are the most ADHD person parent in my entire practice

Mel Robbins · 1:10:30

I look at him Stephen and I'm like why didn't you tell me he said because I'm not your doctor

Mel Robbins · 1:11:00
#adhd#diagnosis#parenting#dyslexia

contrarian· 1

contrarian26:00

A former motivational speaker says motivation is garbage

Robbins, who spent years as a motivational speaker, says flatly that motivation is garbage because it is not there when you need it. She does not rely on it, does not expect to feel motivated and does not expect to feel like doing things — she makes herself do them. She is careful to insist this is neither great willpower nor discipline, but an understanding of the biology of how human beings actually work. The practical upshot is that she will never like getting out of bed, emptying the dishwasher, exercising or eating healthily, and does all of them anyway.

  • Motivation is absent precisely at the moment you need it.
  • Robbins explicitly disclaims willpower and discipline as the mechanism.
  • You can permanently dislike a behaviour and still perform it daily.
  • She'd rather be in a daily dance with herself than let emotions run her life.

the reason why I think motivation is garbage is because it's not there when you need it

Mel Robbins · 26:00

you may never like the things you need to do and you can still do them

Mel Robbins · 33:00
#motivation#habits#discipline#behaviour-change

insight· 5

insight28:00

You decide with your body, not your brain: the five-link chain

Robbins lays out the biological sequence she says fires in a nanosecond before every behaviour: sensation, then perception, then feeling, then thought, then action. Because four links run before the action, your emotions, sensations, trauma responses and autopilot coping mechanisms are choosing what you do — not your reasoning. She argues 99% of people already know how they should behave; the reason they don't is that the decision is being made in the body, below the brain. For anyone with childhood trauma or anxiety, the sensation link alone can trigger the whole avoidance pathway.

  • Sensation → perception → feeling → thought → action, all in a nanosecond.
  • Four links precede the action, so autopilot usually wins.
  • Trauma and anxiety make the sensation link fire the whole chain.
  • Knowledge isn't the bottleneck — the body is.

sensation perception then feeling then thought then action that is the biological chain of events

Mel Robbins · 28:00

you're not making your behavior decisions with your brain you're making them with the sensation in your body if you don't feel like doing it…

Mel Robbins · 32:00
#neuroscience#behaviour-change#trauma#habits
insight15:30

Nobody changes without hope or rock bottom

Robbins argues change breaks the default in only two ways. Either the pain of the current situation grows so large that trying something else becomes the less painful option, or someone cracks open a door and a little light gets in — usually a story from a person who has faced exactly what you're facing right now. What's missing when you're stuck, she says, isn't information but hope: you simply don't believe anything will make a difference. This also means you cannot want someone else's sobriety, healing or financial freedom more than they do.

  • Two doors: enough pain, or a crack of hope from someone else's story.
  • The missing ingredient when stuck is hope, not information.
  • People only change when they are ready to change.
  • You cannot want someone's recovery more than they do.

what is missing in you right now is Hope

Mel Robbins · 16:00

you can't want somebody's sobriety or their healing or their Financial Freedom more than they do

Mel Robbins · 14:00
#change#hope#rock-bottom#psychology
insight34:30

Driven or dragged? Bartlett and Robbins interrogate their own engines

Bartlett admits he doesn't know whether he is driven or being dragged, and says that when hundreds of guests explain their motivation to him it sounds like they're being dragged by shame, a father's opinion, or insecurity. Robbins traces her own to a fourth-grade incident where a kid climbed on top of her while she slept, plus an erratic caregiver — a nervous system that never reset to safe and made staying on the move feel like the only safety. Her conclusion is that driven and dragged may be the same engine, and the only variable that matters is whether you're in control of it.

  • Most stated motivations sound to Bartlett like being dragged, not driven.
  • Robbins links her drive to childhood trauma and a hypervigilant nervous system.
  • If you're on the move, nobody can catch you — so slowing down feels unsafe.
  • Driven vs dragged is really a question of whether you hold the steering wheel.

I wonder if I'm driven or being dragged

Steven Bartlett · 35:00

whether you want to say driven or dragged it's probably just a matter of whether or not you're in control of it

Mel Robbins · 37:00
#motivation#trauma#ambition#self-awareness
insight1:15:00

ADHD isn't an inability to focus — it's a conductor who can't shush the orchestra

Robbins says the single most useful reframe she got was that ADHD is not about being unable to pay attention. Focusing properly requires two neural networks doing two jobs at once, like an orchestra conductor: lowering the volume on the strings while amplifying the percussion. When that switching doesn't work, you cannot quiet the ambient noise or the signalling in your own body in order to amplify attention on the page. She describes sitting in the stacks at Baker Library at Dartmouth unable to read because she was tracking her stomach grumbling, footsteps, and the need for the bathroom.

  • Focus requires simultaneously suppressing and amplifying — two networks, not one.
  • The prefrontal cortex acts as the conductor of the orchestra.
  • When switching fails you can't quiet ambient noise or bodily signals.
  • Robbins couldn't study in a library because everything competed at equal volume.

I always thought that ADHD is that you can't pay attention same that's not what it is at all

Mel Robbins · 1:11:30

in order to conduct an orchestra you got to be able to do two things at once you got to be able to lower the…

Mel Robbins · 1:16:00
#adhd#focus#neuroscience#attention
insight1:17:30

Does chaos fry the conductor? The trauma-ADHD link

Bartlett raises Gabor Maté's case that ADHD appears linked to childhood trauma: in a chaotic or stressful home, learning to tune out is protective, and knowing when to tune in obsessively may be the hyperfocus. Robbins extends it — in a genuinely chaotic environment it may not be safe to tune out at all, so you stay hypervigilant, tracking survival signals in your body and the chaos in the house simultaneously. Her phrase for the result is that it would fry the conductor in your brain. Tracing the chain back, anxiety sits on top of undiagnosed ADHD, which may itself sit on top of childhood trauma.

  • Maté's case: tuning out is a protective survival adaptation in chaotic homes.
  • In an unsafe environment you can't tune out, so hypervigilance takes over.
  • Robbins: hypervigilance would fry the conductor in the brain.
  • The chain runs anxiety ← undiagnosed ADHD ← possible childhood trauma.

kids that go through some kind of interpretation of a stressful environment at a young age or a traumatic environment are more likely to have…

Steven Bartlett · 1:18:30

you've got to stay in that hypervigilant mode which I think would fry the conductor in your brain

Mel Robbins · 1:19:00
#adhd#trauma#hypervigilance#gabor-mate

tactic· 2

tactic06:00

Pay attention to what sucks — negative emotions as navigation

When Bartlett says he is more connected to the negative — jealousy, frustration, anger — than to any positive pull, Robbins reframes those emotions entirely. Anytime they come up in your body they are a directional signal from deep inside telling you that you are supposed to pivot: don't head the same direction, don't keep going the same speed. For people who never get an intuitive nudge toward something, she offers this as the secret to making the next big move: rather than waiting for a positive signal, read the negative ones.

  • There are positive navigational signals and negative ones; both work.
  • Jealousy, frustration and anger are directional data, not defects.
  • The signal says pivot, change speed, don't keep going.
  • Robbins offers it specifically to people who never feel intuitive pull.

pay attention to what sucks in your life

Mel Robbins · 06:00

anytime those emotions come up in my body it's just a directional signal from deep inside of you telling you

Mel Robbins · 06:30
#intuition#career-change#emotions#decision-making
tactic1:03:30

Using 'let them' when you're terrified of someone's reaction

Reading a comment from a 71-year-old woman who never disclosed her abuse because she expected to be blamed, Robbins applies the Let Them Theory to fear itself. If you're terrified of how someone will react, tell yourself 'let them' — let them have the reaction they're going to have. Allowing the space for a parent to react horribly means you've anticipated it, permitted them to be human, and freed yourself to tell the truth anyway. Fear, she says, makes people avoid, shrink, live in silence and deny what they feel, and the fear we feel most is of other people's reactions.

  • Apply 'let them' to the reaction you're most afraid of.
  • Anticipating the bad reaction removes its power to stop you.
  • It's not about their reaction; it's about your courage to say it out loud.
  • Robbins is explicit this is not permission for people to treat you poorly.

let them have the reaction that they're going to have

Mel Robbins · 1:04:00

too often the fear that we feel the most is we're afraid of what other people are going to say we're afraid of other people's…

Mel Robbins · 1:05:00
#let-them-theory#fear#boundaries#disclosure